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Samsung UN55B7000 Review
The Samsung UN55B7000
LED-based HDTVs are excellent choices because of their increased energy efficiency and brighter screens, and the Samsung UN55B7000 is a perfect example. With an eye-catching design, innovative edge-lit technology, amazing picture quality and other impressive features, it is no wonder the UN55B7000 is being touted one of Samsung’s best.
Design
The UN55B7000 is one of Samsung’s most stylish pieces yet, and one of the thinnest, being only 1.2 inches deep at the center and slimming down further towards the edges, where the sleek black frame is tapered with a red border before finishing off in an elegant, transparent edge. The stand, which is also transparent with accents of red and silver, swivels from side to side for convenience, while a special ultra-slim wallmount is also provided. The only design issue is that there are currently no alternatives to the red border, which spells bad luck for those who find it too distracting.
The on-screen menu has red borders, too, although other than that, it is pretty much the same as previous models. The remote control of the Samsung UN55B8000 isn’t bad, either, and is, in fact, very user-friendly with the unresponsive scroll wheel replaced with large, backlit buttons of different shapes. A slight change on the design also keeps it steady on flat surfaces so it doesn’t easily hit the floor.
Screen/Picture Clarity
The LED lighting of the UN55B7000 allows it to deliver impressively deep black levels, though its new edge-lit arrangement prevents it from matching those of the best. The brightness of the screen is affected, too, which appears less than uniform at times, especially during dark scenes. Still, this can only be discerned by trained eyes, and the highly accurate, vibrant colors mask it to deliver breathtaking images that pop off the screen even so.
With a 120Hz refresh rate, the UN55B7000 has no problems preventing blur during fast-moving scenes, and another good thing is that the anti-blur mechanism remains in place even with the dejudder processing turned off. Both 1080p and 1080i sources are processed to a tee.
Features
Four adjustable picture modes - all independent per input - and four aspect ratio modes top the list of the Samsung UN55B7000’s many picture settings, while three power-saving modes help cut down energy consumption even further. Yahoo widgets, built-in video streaming capacity and enhanced DLNA capability make it one of the most interactive HDTVs around, while extensive connectivity options are provided, starting off with four HDMI inputs, a VGA input and not just one but two USB slots that make sharing photos, videos and music files a breeze.
Combine all these and you have a truly excellent HDTV, which is worth more than $2000, by the way. True, its picture quality may not exactly live up to its price but its other features do, and since it is an edge-lit HDTV, it is sure to look good not only in your living room but also on your electric bill.
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I waited long enough for a T.V like this to come out. I have holding out on buying a T.V as they are always coming out with newer technology. I am very please with my purchase. I have not played around with the settings but this picture is truly amazing. My dad had an older Samsung and he was amazed how the picture has changed since he purchased his about 2 year ago. The slim depth is just plain mind blowing. I also got this t.v for a great price after the huge promotional discount Amazon offered. A little part of my wishes that I would have splurged for the 8000 series but I am very happier with the picture.
The one concern I had after reading everyone’s review is the overpowered LED bleeding through the edges of the T.V during the dark scenes. I have not really noticed this at all. I think some people are just overly critical on things. If you really pay attention to it you might notice it but if you are just watching the picture itself you can’t notice it. So don’t base your decision on this issue.
First, let me say, this is not my first big screen HDTV. In fact, this is replacing a 62 inch DLP. So I wasn’t expecting to be WOW’d by this TV… but I was. I don’t have a way to compare the DLP and LCD side by side — the DLP is dead. But I don’t recall the DLP’s image being as clear and vivid as this image. The DLP was able to display 1080i/720p which is about as good as you’re going to get from digital broadcasts. But even on DVD’s with lower resolution, the image appears more life-like.
There were a number of other expectations I had. Some of them were met, some where not, some were exceeded. I will go into details of each.
1) Setup: I was expecting to have to assemble something. But the unit was shipped in a fairly large box fully assembled. I suppose if you intended to mount yours on the wall, you’d have to disassemble the stand. As for me, I intended to have it sitting on it’s stand.
2) Swivel base: I didn’t expect the base would allow it to swivel side to side. Because the TV is so thin and I’ve put it in a place that used to be occupied by a 17 inch thick DLP, there is plenty of room for the TV to swivel so you can sit on one side of the room or the other and still be in the sweet-spot. That’s probably not a big deal for those who are buying the TV for it’s 1.6inch depth.
3) Connections: I was disappointed in several ways. The information on Amazon indicated this TV has 2 RF inputs. It has only 1. My DLP had 2 RF inputs so I could connect my cable to one, and antenna to the other. In my area, with a moderate size antenna, I can pick up about 50 HD channels Out-of-the-Air. My cable company rebroadcasts only about 15 of those digital signals, and periodically changes what channel they’re on.
In an attempt to make the TV very thin, it appears they’ve given very little room for high quality connectors. I had to remove the boot from my CAT6 (network) cable. I had to shave one side of the boot of my RG6 (RF) cable. Without these modifications, I couldn’t use those cables.
In an era of HighSpeed internet, I would have expected the network connection to be a GigE, but it appears to only be 100BT. While 100BT is theoretically enough to stream even the highest resolution media to the TV, my media servers, media receivers, and PC all have GigE. When I switched to a GigE switch, I noticed considerable difference in viewing experience. A GigE chipset would have probably added only about $30 to the price of the TV — not a big deal.
I was however very impressed with this TV’s ability to be a monitor my my laptop. I plugged it into the VGA connection and was surprised to get full 1920×1080 resolution.
4) Yahoo Widgets: It’s certainly a neat idea to be able to see certain information on the screen, but the widgets that are available are unimpressive. You can get most of that information on your Cell phone, without interfering with your TV watching experience.
For about 3 years, I’ve looked for a way to watch YouTube videos on my HDTV. The YouTube widget leaves a lot to be desired. As far as I can tell…. there is no way to associate the widget with your YouTube account so you can’t subscribe to channels, mark favorites, set up play lists, or view your history. The image quality seems to be better than I expected and it appears that it selects the HQ feed when available. Even attempting to search is rather difficult because the on screen keyboard is the worst I’ve ever used. The keyboard doesn’t wrap side-to-side or top-to-bottom. If you’re on the key in the top right, and the next key is in the bottom left, you have to move across a million keys to get to the one you need. In it’s current state, the YouTube widget is worthless.
5) DLNA: Very disappointing. I have 3 media servers that have different implementations of the DLNA (non)standard. The media receives I’ve used that interact with the DLNA servers have a variety of flaws, but this TV is probably the worst of them. It’s slow bringing up the lists of available content, and tends to refuse to play simple content, or doesn’t play them correctly. I was hoping to replace the media receiver attached to my DLP, but I’m not able to because it has faster, better support for the DLNA server, as well as supporting SMB. If the TV can’t do DLNA well, maybe Samsung should think about supporting SMB instead (this TV doesn’t).
6) AnyNet+: This works a lot better than I expected. I bought a Samsung BD player with this TV. There are a couple of things I can’t do with the BD player except with it’s remote, but for the most part, it’s a seamless experience. It would be nice to have a BD button on the remote — there’s a TV button.
7) Image: Based on reviews I’d read elsewhere and here, I was expecting to have issues with various aspects of the picture. I haven’t had any of the “spot light” or “dark corner” problems that people have reported. This TV has incredible darks, brights, and colors. If you get a chance to watch Survivor on this TV…. Do it! Some of the scenes are breathtaking.
I have noticed however, that the picture looks “too good.” The high contrast, clear detail, and motion smoothing tend to make the picture too good. It’s a little disturbing. I’ve had to adjust some of the picture settings to add a little imperfection.
9) USB media player: I’m impressed that this TV is able to play so many formats. I have media in some odd formats that I’ve had difficulty playing — even in Windows Media Player. This TV is able to play them. I’m dissapointed though that it’s not able to play VOB files from the USB. It will play them with the DLNA player, so I would think it should pay them from a USB stick. But it doesn’t.
I compared this TV with the 8000, and 8500 in the same size. When the TV’s are sitting side-by-side, you’re 5 feet away, and looking for specific differences, you can see those differences clear as day. When you look at each TV by them self, or if you’re actually watching a move or show, it’s hard to pick up those flaws/differences. Even watching the same feed with them side-by-side, I couldn’t justify spending the hunderds of $$ more for the minor improvements of the 8000 or 8500.
Reading back, my review sounds very negative. But I’m very happy with this TV. It’s much better than the DLP it’s replacing both in picture quality and features.
I’m not an audiophile, but in my humble opinion, this is a great TV. The picture is stunning. My son and I just watch the World Series on it, and never once lost the ball in the picture due to slow frame refresh or the less-than-240 MHz rate of 120. Nor have I seen any of the issues referenced by others regarding the 8000 series and issues with “lighting from the corners”. I pulled out a 65″ Mitsubishi Diamond, and put this in the hole it created in our entertainment center. Even though it’s 10″ smaller, it’s 1000% better. The only downside I see right now is that it’s hard to turn the TV off now… I should be reading more books!
Bought this TV and watched it for a few months.
Plasmas still produce a better and smooth picture quality.
I sold this and purchased a Samsung plasma. Much better!
Don’t waste your time with LED backliit LCD. It’s simply not there yet. Give it a few years.
We enjoyed most everything this tv has to offer, to include the slim line body style, as well as viewing films in the 3d(which take some getting used to), beautiful slow & stills.
As far as sound, we had it hooked up to our bose surround sound, so I cannot confirm the sound issues.
What we did have a problem with was when we watched an action film or anything which objects move across the screen quickly (& we watch alot), the pixilation issues that happen around objects as they move across the screen quickly or fast. The tv just can’t seem to keep up. It’s very annoying and never happened with our old DLP.
Let me first say this is the fourth LCD TV I’ved owned,second Samsung.I can understand all the gripping about the uneven picture in dark scenes,however after proper calibration which includes going into expert mode and shutting off CE Dimming I must say the picture is outstanding,color,contrast,black levels are spot on.I used Video Essentials to calibrate the brightness,contrast,color,tint and sharpness.This tv is well worth the money.My only grip is the internet wigets thingy which is too slow for me.
Others have written better reviews than I could so I’ll just concur. Picture is great, sound is not as bad as others find (much better than my old 27″ Samsung) and it is a pain to set up. Just consider it a 42 pound picture & frame and hang it on the wall - spectacular.
What I want to rave about is Amazon’s delivery. I ordered this on Black Friday for $2200, free shipping. It was in town the following monday and delivered to me on tuesday. Three days for order to delivery - WOW - now that’s service.
Pros: This creature is beautiful. Super thin and super lightweight and has a “wow” factor when people come over. HD tv shows, xbox games, and Blu-Ray movies are amazing. Lots of groovy extras in the menu system (like recipes).
Cons: Sound from the tv speakers is bad. Fortunately, I use a separate speaker system and it rocks our living room. Also, we notice some sporadic, barely noticeable “pauses” every once in a while. It was explained to me that we should have gotten the 240hz one instead. They rarely happen, but now I wish I’d gotten the 240.
Was a little concerned about the reviews concerning set up but the price couldnt be beat. Set up was too easy…this is the first time i’ve experience real “plug and play”. Hooked it up to my antenna, not more than 15 minutes on its own and i was watching Football! The pic is unreal, i could read the fine print of the car commercials, from my kitchen!
This tv is great. It is thin and bright and has a great viewing angle. It was shipped very well by a freight company that looks like they deliver a lot of TV’s for Amazon. They had 3 or 4 on the truck when they arrived, and opened the box to check for damage before having me sign the shipping order.
I purchased this product just before Thanksgiving and it was delivered in time to watch all of the football on turkey day. All I can say is that you have to see it to believe it. My wife and I are still amazed at the clarity and sharpness of the picture. We keep noticing our local news anchors facial imperfections, and can see details that I am sure we could not see on our previous television. The sound is good, but I also purchased a Samsung Blueray home theater in a box, and they work flawlessly together. I looked around and compared several televisions before purchasing this one, and I have not been disappointed. The delivery went very smoothly, the television was shipped and ready to be delivered within two days, I received a call the night before to set up a 2 hour delivery window. The delivery person and I carried it in, unboxed it and I made sure it worked before they left. It is a great television and a great purchasing experience. I was a little leary about purchasing something like this online, but Amazon made it very easy.
This new Samsung LED is a new viewing experience. When watching good HD TV programming or blu-ray the picture is pretty close to 3D, the charaters come alive. I’ve had NO issues with the back light issue so many reviews seem to be complaining about with these LED sets. Even though this set is 120hz, sports are also fantastic. As a 2007 buyer of Pioneer Elite 61″ Plasma (albeit 1080i), and several newer LCD sets - this Samsung LED unit takes the picture quality to a whole new level.
Very happy with my purchase. TV’s picture quality is excellent easy to set up.
Watch Video Here: http://www.amazon.com/review/RUOVZLCMNQU8B I payed more for the LED vs a plasma, or traditional LCD, but I’m kinda looking for slim, and as much energy conservation as I can get for a flat panel display. I’m a front projector fan, and have one for my basement theater, but this is in a very bright living room and needs to be bright. This certainly is bright enough! It’s replacing an old 32″ Hitachi CRT. That was a great TV in the day, and is now in our bedroom. Now I just have to get some decent furniture to replace the old unit that held our TV and tons of nick-nacks. It’s mounted on an articulating wall mount, and there’s just a folding table under it for now just to hold the receiver and various set top boxes, etc. All the nick nacks are in boxes for now. We need some decent shelving!
Oh yeah, it’s about the TV, eh? Get into the expert settings and turn off the auto contrast thing. It dims the screen for dark stuff. It’s mostly noticed during movie credits, but it’s annoying. While power is off hit “Mute, 1, 8, 2, power” Scroll to “Advanced” then type “0000″ and scroll to the dimming thing. There are many other things to scroll thru and play with, but I didn’t have the guts to mess w/ that. I bet there are some cool features tho! I turned off the Motion Plus stuff after reading many tech reviews that say it’s just not worth it.
This TV has amazing color and great internet functions. But the door of optical output is very flimsy. It was snapped off within a month. I searched the Internet and found that other customers have exactly the same issue. It is not possible for me to return the TV just to fix this. I have to tape the cable to have to fixed. So be very careful with that optical output door.
Many folks still wonder about the newer LED/LCD vs. Plasma.
I was one of them. After months of research, I picked the 58″ B650 Plasma.
It is always tough to audition in a store, but we felt it beat out the big LCD’s.
Well - read on.
Had it 3 weeks, waiting for it to ‘break in’, which it did (the phosphors have to age and become uniform - took about 50 hours of viewing to achieve.)
Was able over time to get a great pic (in dynamic mode), but it never quite
looked as great as our Samsung 40″ B630 upstairs.
Then I measured the power consumption after we noticed the heat coming off the screen. Uh - 550W average, with peaks up to 700W in certain brght movie scenes!
My wife and I play the set quite a bit, and some quick math told us the heat and cost was just too much a price to pay for something that will hang on the wall for years to come. Back to the stores for more auditioning.
After another few weeks of looking we bought the 55″ UN55B7000 LED/LCD.
Almost the same size - but 1/4 the power after reading up on it.
Out of the box, this set looked as good or better than the plasma.
Black levels as good - color balance even better - My test BluRay that has a number of tough to get right grey/black scenes is Terminator Salvation. Looked better on the 7000.I use that, and UP, which really tests the color saturation.
And this is in the default movie mode, which comes up when I use my Samsung BluRay player.
With minimal tweaking in Standard Mode, I got it looking even better.
No heat. Long term cost way down over the plasma.
SUMMARY - I was able to own both in my own home and do my own tweaking and comparing, and all things considered - The LED/LCD 7000 beat out the 58B650 plasma.
Hope this provides some input for others that are trying to decide.
Consider all the factors - the heat and power as well as the picture.
1. Pilot delivery was excellent, help remove from the box and gave a quick inservice of the tv and remotes.
2. Right out of the box TV was beautiful. WOW factor is there.
3. I have not experienced any of the negatives discussed in the reviews.
4. Connected to the internet with no problem, updated software immediately.
5. Love this TV, best that I have. I have 3 other Samsungs and have never had an issue.
6. If you are undecided, go to Best Buy and look at this TV!
The built-in media player does not recognize AVCHD video files on USB connected external hard disc.
The Western Digital TV Live (or Viewsonic latest) plays the AVCHD files well on this TV, so the TV is OK, just the built-in media player from Samsung does not keep up with latest HD video technology advances.
Also the speed of the media player if far from desired to play 24 MBit/sec or even 17 MBit/sec recorded video. Those same files played from a HD camcorder directly OK, or via a decent media player.
I bought this TV on January 29 with Amazon’s 24-month free financing promotion to replace my old Samsung 50″ DLP, which I’ve had for 4 years and is still working perfectly. Shipping was free and the TV was delivered right on time on Wednesday, February 3 by Pilot Delivery Services. I was told by the delivery men that they usually unpack the TV and turn it on to make sure the TV works, but because my TV had been in the cold delivery truck for almost 2 days (I live in Chicago), the delivery men recommended that I give the TV a couple hours to reach room temperature. I heeded their warning and about 2 hours later, I finally turned on the TV and WOW!
This TV definitely has a great picture and I am very pleased. I watch HDTV via an HD/DVR Comcast cable box and the picture is amazing. I have the TV connected to the cable box via HDMI 1, to a PS3 slim via HDMI 2, to my laptop via the PC input, and to my Samsung surround sound receiver via a digital optical cable. All connections produce vivid images and great sound. I have not really messed with any of the picture settings, as I think the picture looks great without tweaks. I do put the picture on Movie mode when I am watching a Blu Ray on the PS3, but I put the Dynamic Contrast back on (default setting is OFF on Movie mode). A lot of people complain or don’t like the 3D-ish look of the Dynamic Contrast + 120hz refresh rate, but we really like it and always leave it on.
Although this TV only has a single tuner, I was able to get the Picture in Picture to work with 2 different channels, by splitting the cable before reaching the cable box, then using an HDMI from the cable box to the TV and a coaxial cable wire from the cable box to the ANT IN of the TV. Be sure to do a channel search on the TV input to obtain the channels for the sub-PiP screen. Note the sub-PiP screen will only show the local/over the air channels available in your area (at least for me), but the good news is that you can get the HD feed of those local channels on the sub channels (channel 2-1, etc).
Probably the best evidence I can give is the constant positive comments my wife gives me about TV. She was against the pricey purchase from the beginning, but she has definitely been won over and that should give the TV enough credibility on its own. We had a Super Bowl party and everyone kept raving about the TV (picture and thinness were the biggest comments).
The only feature of the TV that I have not been able to utilize is the Internet connectivity. I tried to connect the TV to the Internet via my cable modem (wired through my wireless router), but I was not able to get past the Internet Gateway portion of the Internet Connection test. Therefore, I cannot currently access any of the widgets, though I am not too disappointed as I would not normally not utilize them - I just wanted to see how they looked. I am sure the problem is with my wireless router (firewall or something), so I do not blame the TV. I should try going directly from the TV to the cable modem, but I have not tried that yet.
Lastly, this TV looks great mounted on the wall. I was going to buy the Samsung Ultra Slim mount, but I decided to get a far less expensive Cheetah Mount (also from Amazon) for around $30 with shipping and it works perfectly. I used a slight tilt on the mount and the TV hangs perfectly from the wall. I was very happy to save the $100 or so with the cheaper mount. I used the savings to purchase the Samsung-backed 3 year extended warranty from Amazon as well.
Overall, perhaps I am not as technically picky as most people who buy TVs at this price range are, but I have absolutely no complaints about this TV and am very happy with my purchase. I would recommend this TV to anyone and one of my friends recently purchased the 46″ 6000 series model after viewing my TV. I will update my review if I come across anything I forgot to mention or any negatives I encounter.
My only negative is the wireless internet connection. It works OK but too slow to be very useful. One good surprise was the way it handled a 16 gig usb chip filled with photos and music. Everything looks and sounds great with a good user interface and logical default settings. As for the TV picture itself I’ve found none better…
After an exhaustive research project of about 1 month I came to the conclusion that the UN55B7000 was for us. We were replacing a Sony WEGA 42″ projection LCD HDTV that was suffering from the dreaded blue smoke/cloud caused by the optical block. After using the new Samsung for a few days now I must say WOW, what a huge difference. We weren’t reacting to the truely spectacular picture quality because of our Sony problems but because the details this screen shows out performed our Sony when it was new. 5 years of technology improvement really shows through in the 7000.
If you are reading this then you are where I was in th beginning wondering which one is right for you and your family. Well look no further this is the ticket. You might read about the shiny/glossy screen causing problems, well my living room is brightly lit in the morning with the large picture window facing east which is perpendicular to the TV, we have no issues with the glossy screen. In fact we both commented on how the picture looks brighter than the Sony did in the morning.
I’ve not hooked up the widgets so won’t speak to them, although I have to admit I’m not in a hurry as we aren’t interested in checking the weather with a widget or updating our Facebook from the TV. Plus the laptop is in the other room for those activities, in addition we have a PS3 that can do that as well, more or less.
If you are still undecided I suggest visiting [...] as you will find a wealth of information from the members of this great audio visual forum. Your brain will melt from the information but you will go away knowing what to do, I believe.
Enjoy your new Samsung as we are enjoying ours.
We’re usually Sony TV buyers but got sold on the LED idea when we saw how great the screen picture is when viewing from the side - not distorted. Sony does have LED but it is still new which means still expensive. The Samsung 7000 came out a year ago so is now half of what it cost last year! (Now that there is already an 8000.) The 7000 is the same as the 7100 sold in Best Buy except for the frame or something minor. Through Amazon, as of last week, we got this for 300 dollars less than buying local, no tax and no delivery charges - super deal, couldn’t resist, though this is the most expensive thing we’ve ever bought on Amazon.
Delivery was very good. Amazon advertises that the TV can be at your place in 3 days. For us, that meant it was in our city in 2 days. The delivery company didn’t call us on checkout but did call us the day after it got to our city (4 days). They gave a 3 hour window for the next day which is pretty good and were here as they said (Got TV in 5 days from ordering.) Brought the TV just where we wanted it. Didn’t unpack it because it was cold? They said to wait 2 hours. I’m no expert so I don’t know if that was the truth or an excuse. But they were really nice. They gave instructions on unpacking and keeping the packing in case of a return or exchange.
Quick start is quick! Out of the box, plug, find channels and go! Already mounted on a stand out of the box. Love the picture as is without fine tuning. The back is designed maybe a little too slim, though. Not much space to get the connection for an ordinary cable in - had to squeeze it in its slot - couldn’t use the screw type with no space to screw it in. There’s much more space for HD connections which we don’t have. Maybe when we add a blu-ray, etc.
Viewing distance with LED truly doesn’t matter as the local sales guys say. We were afraid 55 would be too big for a 6-8 feet distance but it isn’t.
Wii - if you don’t already have one, you may need an HD-Wii cable (35 at gamestop, maybe cheaper elsewhere, plus there are 3rd party types). The original Wii cable has only 3 connections; you need the 5. Without it, we had sound, no color and fuzzy images. With it, and with Wii settings - Screen - TV resolution set to 480p, great!
This is Day 1 and we’re loving it!
We have the UN55B7100WF which has the internet capabilities over the standard 7000 if I am correct. The picture quality is unreal for this whole line of TV’s. The 1.177″ thickness of the unit is amazing. I am blown away at the quality with the standard Cable box which only displays at 1080i instead of 1080p. I haven’t tried a blueray player yet, but I am certain that it will surpass all my expectations. This is the first addition to our Home theater. The speakers on the unit are decent, but not home theater quality, but with even that said, I still rate this TV as a 5 out of 5. Very pleased and impressed with this unit.
Received my Samsung 55 LED 7000 TV 1 hour ago and I am ecstatic. $1699.00 no interest for 24 mos., free shipping in 3 days and no 8 1/2% tax. This is $300 better then best local at Frys. and with tax savings and delivery charge!! Was delivered by Pilot Transport. They wheeled it into my living room, unpacked, set it up on my fireplace and hooked up cable and electric. Took about 15 minutes. I am 70+ yrs old and can not lift or use my hands well. The man from Pilot, Orlando Amayas, was really nice and above and beyond in his service.
I read the quick setup guide and ran it through time set, channel scan and started watching.
Picture is brilliant!! Have in a well lit area and cabine is beautiful Love the controls and the little mini-remote. This is a replacement for my Samsung 40″ HD that is three yrs old and now destined to my home office.
I looked at the 8500, 8000, and the 7000 side by side at Frys. I really couldn’t see any significant difference so the 240HZ at bigger bucks didn’t make any sense to me. My son has the 8500 and he is a sports nut and says he can see the difference but of course with much younger eyes. Do the side by side your self and see what you think for yourself. If any changes or problems I will update this. For now, I am a happy camper in Houston. Go Aggies!!!
Easy set up, great picture, excellent price. Beat Best Buy by $400+ considering no shipping, no tax.